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Tariff fight resurrects dispute over Alaska pipeline's life expectancy

alaskadispatch.com -- A complex regulatory battle is brewing over how much money the owners of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline charge to ship crude, one that raises questions about Gov. Sean Parnell's push to slash billions of dollars in oil taxes.

..the state's legal team cites information..in a recent lawsuit against the oil companies.. Municipalities like the Fairbanks North Star Borough argued in recent years that BP and others were understating the life of the pipeline in order to reduce its assessed value and the property taxes they pay.

State Senate President Gary Stevens has urged Alaskans to be wary of the oil industry's claims when opposing major tax breaks.
..the judge in the 1997 Amerada Hess ruling found the oil companies guilty of "deliberate falsification" of records to reduce their state

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Submitted Aug 11, 2012 By: teafortwo

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NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,083 Points:1,621,355 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 11:01:19 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse How nice to see that the industry tucks it to both us and state govt. by any and all means possible! More bull fm. the Texas industry shill to justify an industry that lies, cheats, and steals from all of us. How much do they pay him for spouting so much misinformation here?
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,064 Points:1,446,375 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:16:55 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse Ah yes, the usual political corruption. But then, this is Alaska.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,934 Points:751,010 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 11:14:30 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse Lower tax rates = increased productivity = more tax revenue. It's been proven time and time again. Problem is liberals like to use taxation as a punitive measure.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,147 Points:2,369,420 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:41:42 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse when eco nazi's become extinct, the world will be a much happier place
KhelbenArunson Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,436 Points:715,915 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 12:37:49 AM Ignore KhelbenArunson Report Abuse I say tax the oil companies as much as possible. I still think they should be subject to a corporate windfall tax. Or we could just name it what it really is, a corporate scumbag tax.
OWENALOTT Champion Author Appleton Posts:2,182 Points:500,095 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 12:31:35 AM Ignore OWENALOTT Report Abuse K
jethro5000 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,872 Points:390,260 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 12:22:06 AM Ignore jethro5000 Report Abuse Sarah Palin didn't have these problems...
2parrots Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:1,551 Points:345,315 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 12:11:07 AM Ignore 2parrots Report Abuse Now there is a costly combination, lawyers & big oil.
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WebGabe Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,359 Points:494,670 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:49:44 PM Ignore WebGabe Report Abuse Hmm...
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kikitm Rookie Author Milwaukee Posts:68 Points:160,540 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:44:27 PM Ignore kikitm Report Abuse That's ridiculous
jrschl Champion Author Louisville Posts:2,957 Points:679,115 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:40:17 PM Ignore jrschl Report Abuse Lining their pockets at the consumers' expense. I am for making money but not through swindling.
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must87searcher Champion Author Maryland Posts:8,972 Points:1,778,500 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:36:56 PM Ignore must87searcher Report Abuse This argument will take some time too complete. The more time means more money. That is not good.
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rabbit1976 Rookie Author Richmond Posts:98 Points:112,515 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:31:41 PM Ignore rabbit1976 Report Abuse the lawyers are on there way
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rabbit1976 Rookie Author Richmond Posts:98 Points:112,515 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:28:49 PM Ignore rabbit1976 Report Abuse they are sick people
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SUPERSTEVIEO Champion Author Quebec Posts:3,523 Points:787,115 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:23:17 PM Ignore SUPERSTEVIEO Report Abuse if they play with figures to save on taxes... fine the bejesus out of them... and jail the execs!!!!
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boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,713 Points:387,000 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:22:01 PM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse I can't believe they are cheating.
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,083 Points:1,621,355 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:18:35 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse It is also likely the pipeline operator is understating the flow of crude to reduce tax payments to the state and municipalities! Nothing like this "ethical" industry!!!
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TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:8,741 Points:1,975,675 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:16:18 PM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Now who would think the oil industry would do such a thing??? Gotcha!!!!
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LanguageMan1 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,712 Points:1,659,840 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 11:12:52 PM Ignore LanguageMan1 Report Abuse Nothing new! Just like with Obama, nothing changed, nothing new. You're so right tedjm1.
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