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WISER: Frack attack — reports question science used by fracking critics

Washington Times -- It's been a rough couple of weeks for environmental groups and activists opposed to natural gas drilling.

The latest blow came last week when the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency announced that it would take no "additional action" to address contaminants in the private drinking water wells of residents in Dimock, Pa. Dimock is the town infamous for a scene in "Gasland," an anti-drilling documentary made by filmmaker Josh Fox, in which a homeowner ignites his tap water.

The EPA conducted the study in Dimock because of its proximity to the Marcellus Shale, a rock formation that drillers inject with a pressurized mixture of water, sand and chemicals (more than 99.5 percent of the mixture consists of water and sand) to release natural gas — a process known as hydraulic fracturing, or fra

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drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:9,159 Points:778,875 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 9:27:45 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse As more and more SCIENTIFIC studies are added to a growing list of studies showing the safety of hydraulic fracturing, the science DENIAL crowd will overlook the FACTS and continue to promote fear. Yelling "the water's on fire etc.". They'll continue to chant the thoroughly DEBUNKED claims of Josh Fox "Gasland" propaganda. Let's see...some of the latest: INSURANCE!!! Aha, this will be the nail in those frackers coffin! Oh wait...."Fracking-related losses have never been a covered loss under personal or commercial lines policies." - Nationwide Insurance Co. WATER USE!!! Water use eh? As each aspect of the witch hunt against oil and gas production is knocked down by science these yahoos will come up with something else out of the blue. Show me one state where oil and gas comapanies use more than a tiny fraction (far less than 1%) of the total water usage. While your at it show me a state that doesn't allow golf courses to use hundreds of times more water than drilling. You cannot, case closed. Period. You see, there is a huge amount of deceiving information spouted out to the public about hydraulic fracturing, a decades-old technology. Those who spread this misinformation are mostly preying on the public's fears, with an ultimate goal of forcing state governments to succumb to that fear and prevent or even ban hydraulic fracturing. We need to make sure that the discussion is productive, and that any rules are legitimately conceived. Fact must be sEPArated from fiction. Previously and still the most common despite the numerous scientific studies that has shown it safe, is the fear and paranoia talking point that hydraulic fracturing contaminates ground water. This is baseless. Have you ever noticed that the critics who make that claim never provide concrete evidence? The reason for their omission? It is obvious why. After being used more than 1.2 million times there have been no confirmed cases of hydraulic fracturing contaminating water. None. Never. Ever. As EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said in April of 2012, "In no case have we made a definitive determination that the fracking process has caused chemicals to enter groundwater." The three "smoking gun" cases that the anti-shale zealots were sinking their teeth into have proven false or based on very poor science. See Pavillion WY, Dimoch, PA, and Parker County, TX. The latest fear mongering is "climate change" thru methane emission from hydraulic fracturing. Once again SCIENTIFIC investigation has shown the EPA using numbers that are overblown by 50%. Oh, and the one fear and paranoia pushers love the bestest, that "evil Halliburton Loophole" talking point! LOL, what a joke. This is the errant claim born out of the yellow journalism of "gasland", a proven fraudulent film by Josh Fox, that hydraulic fracturing is "exempt" from the Safe Drinking Water Act, thanks to an energy bill passed by Congress in 2005. The truth??? SDWA has been the law of the land for nearly 40 years, and at no point has it ever covered hydraulic fracturing. Why??? States already tightly and effectively regulate the process.? How can an industry be exempt from something that never covered you in the first place? But you hear this falsehood talking point most every time the subject comes up. IT IS IMPORTANT TO RELY ON FACTS AND THE SCIENCE, NOT FEAR AND PARANOIA.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,818 Points:1,636,245 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 4:50:57 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse what's a little clean drinking water anyways?
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,231 Points:823,895 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:38:24 PM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse It's about time the truth surfaces.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:9,159 Points:778,875 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:00:08 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse FuelOilOH, actually extensive research has been done and reported in the journal Marine and Petroleum Goelogy found "the chance of a fracture extending more than 600 metres upwards was exceptionally low, and the probability of fractures of more than 350 metres was 1%." Hydraulic Fracturing is very controlled.
FuelOilOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,842 Points:1,184,595 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 10:16:50 PM Ignore FuelOilOH Report Abuse There's no such thing as controlled fracking because no one can be sure of the way the rock will break apart. Even though they are far beneath the water table, pressure shifts underground (read earthquakes) mix things up pretty good. Here in Ohio we feel tremors that are injection well induced.
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:5,912 Points:843,955 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 10:08:59 PM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse knot2swift, Nice!
toadNY Champion Author Albany Posts:7,183 Points:1,539,875 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:45:21 PM Ignore toadNY Report Abuse Some day we will know.
jimedB All-Star Author Riverside Posts:535 Points:87,690 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:43:21 PM Ignore jimedB Report Abuse What is called science these days sure dosen't seem to be what it used to be. Now it's all about what will make our sides point.
joko0 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,101 Points:591,365 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:39:54 PM Ignore joko0 Report Abuse Ok
DABEE1073 Champion Author San Diego Posts:8,350 Points:1,599,810 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:39:22 PM Ignore DABEE1073 Report Abuse THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CRITICS ON ONE THING OR ANOTHER. I GUESS THEY HAVE NOTHING MORE WORTHWHILE TO DO.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:8,052 Points:1,600,730 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:37:06 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse both sides will question the others information
Ayeghoti Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,530 Points:368,380 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:30:50 PM Ignore Ayeghoti Report Abuse .
DCbeachbum Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,667 Points:925,615 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:27:27 PM Ignore DCbeachbum Report Abuse So a film maker can make a film and argue with facts from organizations like the Susan G. Komen Foundation?
drobbbb Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,585 Points:836,785 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:23:36 PM Ignore drobbbb Report Abuse ok
soakmonkey Champion Author Nevada Posts:1,452 Points:1,008,955 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:23:25 PM Ignore soakmonkey Report Abuse hmm
Tenshot All-Star Author Quad Cities Posts:758 Points:1,797,035 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:16:48 PM Ignore Tenshot Report Abuse Frickin Frackers
Taurus1 Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,209 Points:1,691,930 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:15:52 PM Ignore Taurus1 Report Abuse Fracking will contaminate our water supply.
TRAIN RIDER Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:9,217 Points:2,784,545 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:15:44 PM Ignore TRAIN RIDER Report Abuse It seems like both sides are not being truthful.
V8power Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,951 Points:1,406,720 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:15:16 PM Ignore V8power Report Abuse The EPA only backed off because Obama reminded them it's an election year.
knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,501 Points:716,760 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:14:21 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse These gas deposits are thousands of feet underground while most wells run a few hundred. I think the government is trying to wash it's hands of a$$holes looking to make a buck while major energy issues for the entire US are at stake.
AKmailman Champion Author Alaska Posts:5,758 Points:1,583,840 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:09:56 PM Ignore AKmailman Report Abuse first time I've heard this "frack attack" - kinda like it
Mustache_33 All-Star Author Toronto Posts:900 Points:181,455 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:05:31 PM Ignore Mustache_33 Report Abuse hmm
iamforiu Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,710 Points:738,465 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:04:06 PM Ignore iamforiu Report Abuse just do it
walkingtall Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,129 Points:1,147,430 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 9:02:08 PM Ignore walkingtall Report Abuse Frack attacks reports question science used by fracking critics and the EPA should be investigated they are likely taking some kickbacks from the natural gas industry.
IUVidiot Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,725 Points:736,160 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:58:44 PM Ignore IUVidiot Report Abuse Frack baby frack
MG_Sputnik Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,432 Points:1,986,680 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:58:20 PM Ignore MG_Sputnik Report Abuse What the frack?
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,436 Points:1,556,195 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:58:06 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse The EPA should be investigated they are likely taking kickbacks from the natural gas idustry,
95Vette Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,595 Points:656,455 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:53:47 PM Ignore 95Vette Report Abuse ooookaaayyy
colaguy Champion Author Columbia Posts:3,224 Points:1,020,760 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:52:55 PM Ignore colaguy Report Abuse hmmm
zeeflyers All-Star Author Pittsburgh Posts:713 Points:230,655 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:52:38 PM Ignore zeeflyers Report Abuse Sure
GigHarborHound Champion Author Tacoma Posts:2,669 Points:514,240 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:50:17 PM Ignore GigHarborHound Report Abuse Again?
letterchunker Champion Author Texas Posts:2,335 Points:683,150 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:49:09 PM Ignore letterchunker Report Abuse I'm still convenced that fracking causes earthquakes around here. We did not hear of all these quakes before all the natural gas drilling started a few years ago. I don't care what the so called experts say.
TelsaOR Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,596 Points:740,215 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:46:39 PM Ignore TelsaOR Report Abuse We know for a FACT that fracking can be done safely sometimes.
FunMyster All-Star Author Indiana Posts:909 Points:73,480 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:42:43 PM Ignore FunMyster Report Abuse ok
John747 Champion Author Chicago Posts:474,595 Points:3,651,635 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:40:39 PM Ignore John747 Report Abuse Those opposed to fracking aren't going to let a little thing like "facts" get in their way.
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,889 Points:2,493,155 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:39:13 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Oh! The poor greenies!
bababooey2 Champion Author Hartford Posts:6,487 Points:1,329,565 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:38:12 PM Ignore bababooey2 Report Abuse So what is next.
MDTDriver Champion Author California Posts:9,848 Points:2,180,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:36:50 PM Ignore MDTDriver Report Abuse Most water and sand!
JimVP All-Star Author Chicago Posts:647 Points:163,335 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:36:36 PM Ignore JimVP Report Abuse Congress does not understand their own legislation, how are they to understand science.
goodbuy Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,806 Points:1,449,205 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:31:20 PM Ignore goodbuy Report Abuse Frick frack a Big Mac.
CAroadrunner101 Champion Author California Posts:1,962 Points:1,342,150 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:31:15 PM Ignore CAroadrunner101 Report Abuse oh my...
Grandkid1 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,383 Points:243,505 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:30:22 PM Ignore Grandkid1 Report Abuse hmmmm
swrestler Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:6,269 Points:1,598,530 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:26:36 PM Ignore swrestler Report Abuse Fracking Is Dangerous, But They Must Take Safety Precautions First...
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,403 Points:1,585,640 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:25:15 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse More junk science by the enviro-nazis,,,,
Crumbfel Champion Author Virginia Posts:11,554 Points:2,160,585 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:23:27 PM Ignore Crumbfel Report Abuse Not good
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Spankster85 Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,849 Points:383,115 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:19:53 PM Ignore Spankster85 Report Abuse Each side will use the science that supports their position. What else is new?
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Homito All-Star Author San Antonio Posts:880 Points:174,700 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:19:01 PM Ignore Homito Report Abuse would that affect gas prices?
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